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The most versatile pack in the Seek Outside lineup, the Unaweep 4800 is big enough for almost everything, compresses down to nothing, and with a multitude of compression straps can carry almost anything. All of this while being lighter than any similarly capable pack. Whether it is backpacking with bulky loads, hunting, multisport trips, winter trips, long unsupported traverses, or all of the above the Unaweep 4800 is the one pack quiver.
Handmade in Grand Junction, Colorado, USA.
Weight (includes Base Talon and all compression straps):
Rain Cover / Seam Sealing:
Super comfortable, durable, spacious and lightweight - met all my expectations and more over a week long trip in the Sierras. One observation I would like to make - if you're used to multiple pockets, get the day talon - I got the regular one and found myself missing the pockets.
Not the cheapest pack, but worth every penny.
Andrei T on 11th Oct 2016
This is a follow up review. After a short outing, I put the pack into a better testing on a family backpacking trip on 93 miles Wonderland Trail over 10 days. The Unaweep performed very well, carrying the load very comfortably and keeping things dry through light to moderate rain. The top lid is a must add on, imo, and between top lid and front tallon, organization and access was no issue over 10 days. Large and easily accessed bottle pockets were handy too. I did add two belt pouches, which served me very well, and wish they had this feature available, but no biggie as there are many choices out there. If you want to have an option to carry a little more weight than the most UL packs with a very little weight penalty, you cannot go wrong with this pack. Dennis LEE on 11th Aug 2016
I took the Fortress 4800 pack to Philmont this summer. We did 10 days of 10-mile average days (total 100 miles) up long climbs and steady downhills, with weather ranging from cold downpours and hail to hot, dry, and dusty conditions. Average total pack weight was between 50-60 pounds depending on how much food and water I carried on any given day. I can say it's a durable pack, and the waterproof fabric worked well enough keeping things inside dry. I like the low weight. I like the compression sleeve concept, it gave me many options for hanging things on the outside of the pack, like wet socks and shirts. I really like the over-the-top Y shaped compression straps that come to a single point. This design is great for keeping a rolled item on of the pack (like a sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack) super secure. I also used the bottom load shelf, which worked well for camp shoes and dirty tent footprint (home-made from Tyvek). What I didn't like was the standard compression sleeve because it was difficult to retrieve items stuffed inside and thins tended to get lost inside with no way to organize it. Once you compress it down and your pack and the sleeve are full it's very difficult to unzip or zip it back up. Lack of organization pockets made it a hassle to use so I rarely tried to retrieve items out of the compression sleeve's zippered compartment while on the trail. When I wasn't being extra careful, I would unzip the sleeve and the things inside (para cord, flashlight, tools, snacks, etc.) would fall out since it becomes one large open pocket with a vertical opening on the side. For this type of backpacking, I would highly suggest the day compression talon, and wish I had one on this trip. The other issue I had was that after several hours of hiking in the heat, sweat begins to absorb into the webbing and straps all over. For me, this led to straps constantly (slowly) loosening so that I was constantly having to tighten the straps on the trail, including load lifters, hip belt, and shoulder straps. If you are only doing a few hours of hiking this would not be an issue, but at Philmont we hiked 6 -7 hours or longer every day so this was a persistent nagging problem. My thought was that sweat absorbed into the straps was like a lubricant and the hardware just didn't do a great job at keeping things cinched down at that point. I wonder if slightly sturdier straps used in construction of the pack might help solve this problem without adding too much weight? They do seem a little thin compared to mass market packs. With only 30-40 pounds, this pack carries like a dream. Pushing 50-60, with wet straps slipping all the time on multi-hour long hikes it got a little uncomfortable. Then again, "comfort" is relative at 10,000 feet carrying 50 pounds for 10 miles at a time.
Final observation - the padding in the hip belt and shoulder straps held up very well on this trip. On other off-the-shelf packs, the padding always tends to compress and twist inside the outer fabric, especially on the shoulder harness. The padding on my Unaweep Fortress seemed to take a beating while keeping its shape. It didn't compress and twist up like others. This tells me the harness system actually is designed to carry the type of weight and capacity that the bag allows you to carry. in other words, other manufactures will make a high capacity pack bag (meaning heavy weight if you fill it up) but match it to an inadequate harness system. After 10 days and 100 miles of heavy weight I can't detect any compression, distortion, or twisting of the foam padding within the fabric. Overall I like the pack and would recommend. Steve P on 28th Jul 2016
We had an almost SAR type of emregency on a 2 day backpacking trip to Jennie Lake in Sequoia NF (her right hand got slammed and jammed by a sliding boulder), and I had to carry most of my wife's load on the way back. And this pack performed flawlessly! I am really thankful for the folks at Seek Outside for making this pack, and rushing it out so I could take it out this time. I took the pack for a test drive on a short 5 miles to Jennie Lake over July 4th weekend, after they rushed it out to make it happen. Since it was an easier short trip, we took extra weighted stuff like aluminum pots for campfire, portable steel grill, fishing equip, etc to make it more fun trip for kids, so the pack weighted more than usual. On the outbound hike, I was amazed how light the pack felt on my shoulder. On the way back with all the extra weight, I began to feel a little bit of pain toward the end, but nothing much really. We had to pack up frantically, shoving in whatever the kids threw at me, put stuff in between the main bag and the tallon, and hang more stuff on the outside, so the pack must have been awkwardly balanced, but it really didn't matter.
Only one trip, but with an emergency load and weight, I cannot think of one negative thing on this pack. Great suspension, good balance and an option to carry much larger load, and lightweight, what more can you ask in a pack? Well I wish it was a little less expensive, but I got what I paid for - a very well made lightweight versatile backpack.
Thank you Seekoutside! Dennis Lee on 4th Jul 2016
I came across this pack by searching "modern external frame backpacks" and scouring the internet for reviews of packs. I checked out a few other hunting packs but they were more for hunting and packing out game than backpacking. I started backpacking around 30 years ago as a kid and grew up with external frame packs. When I got back into backpacking 7 or so years ago I went with an internal framed osprey aether 85L. I have square shaped hips with nearly no "grip" on them whatsoever. The hipbelt on the Aether just didn't fit well and slipped a lot. Over the last few trips I really started to hate that pack. It just never felt as comfortable as I remembered my old external framed kelty packs of the late 80's early 90's. I thought it was just all in my head until I got this pack. I took it on a short weekend trip loaded with about 30lbs. About the same weight I usually carry on a weekend trip in the Aether. We did about 6miles with about 5k feet of elevation gain. The pack's hipbelt never slipped, to the point that it felt strange after years of having to readjust and push my Aether back up on my hips.
It's also a great design. Efficient, compact and lightweight. The pack I got with accessories is a full pound lighter than my old pack and has more volume. I could fit all of my gear plus our expedition sized bear canister inside the pack. The compression straps are fantastic and placed great to compress the load. The water bottle pockets fit a 1L nalgene under the compression cord for the pocket for size reference. My hips and shoulders usually get sore during trips. With this pack I had zero sore spots or any type of "pack fatigue" during or after the trip. A+ pack. Curt on 22nd Jun 2016
Just got my Fortress bag, talon and day talon, and have only been out once on a pretty demanding hike: 11 miles and 3200' EG, It was a day hike so I was only packing 22 or 23 pounds, but it gave me an idea. I'm very pleased with the suspension system. Absolutely no sore spots and this was a brand new unit. Very comfortable. I plan to use it a lot in the next few month, so we'll see if the good news continues... Ed Stover on 31st Mar 2016
I have found the Unaweep suspension to be superior to the Tioga in most respects. The Unaweep is lighter, more comfortable on the back, has better balance, and a better hip belt. The Tioga has a more solid frame due to the extra aluminum in the frame, but I prefer the more flexible frame on the Unaweep.
Being flexible does not diminish the Unaweep's ability to carry loads. I haven't taken heavy loads out on the trail, but I have tested the pack with 40-50lb loads for hour intervals while doing squats, lunges, and other exercises. During the hour intervals I experienced zero shoulder or back stress. It did take some time to adjust the pack properly, but once adjusted it is comfortable.
The only disadvantage of the fortress bag seems to be the lack of pockets for organization, but that's not something that I am significantly concerned about. Strapping a bag to the top is definitely an option.
Overall the Unaweep is a solid, comfortable pack that seems to work very well. Unknown on 4th Mar 2016
Wow, first thing the struck me when I opened the box was quality. The pack material, waist strap, the talon, the frame, everything was quality. However, the best part was the comfort of this pack on your back. I have never truly experienced a pack fitting like this. It's like driving around a bomb and not knowing Ferrari exist then driving a Ferrari and being blown away. The weight is brought close to your core and centre of gravity. The waist belt sits right were it should and there are no pressure points developed on your soldiers. The frame is outstanding. The comfort is outstanding. This product is outstanding!
Next purchase will be a tipi tent and stove. Thanks SeekOutside for such a quality product, I look forward to my future purchases with you. Sandy on 6th Jan 2016
THIS REVIEW OF THE SEEK OUTSIDE UNAWEEP 4800 WAS PUT TOGETHER AFTER PUTTING 18 MILES AND CLIMBING 5000 TOTAL FOOT GAIN OVER A 2 DAY BACKPACKING TRIP. MY LOAD WAS 31LBS INITIALLY WITH 3 LITERS OF WATER AND 2.5 DAYS OF FOOD. ADD IN MORE WATER TO GET FROM POINT TO POINT AND THE LOAD WEIGHT INCREASED MORE. THIS PACK BEING LIGHTER MADE THAT OVERALL LOAD ALWAYS 4LBS LIGHTER THAN MY OLDER PACK WOULD HAVE BEEN. THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT OF WEIGHT UNTIL YOU'VE GONE SOME DISTANCE, YOUR BODY STARTS TO FATIGUE AND IT'S RAINING ON YOU. THAT'S WHEN THIS PACK STARTED TO SHINE FOR ME.
FIRST I WANT TO START OUT BY SAYING THAT THE PARADOX UNAWEEP 4800 PACK DOESN'T HAVE TONS OF PERKS OR FLASHY DOODADS TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION. THIS PACK TOSSES OUT MANY OF THE THINGS WE DON'T NEED AND IMPROVES UPON THE FEATURES WE ARE ALL AFTER. SOME OF THE FEATURES THAT PARADOX PACKS HAS CHOSEN TO IMPROVE UPON ARE GREAT USABILITY. SIMPLICITY, MEANINGFUL FUNCTIONALITY AND COMFORT. THE FIRST NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE FROM THIS PACK AND ALL OTHERS IS THE MATERIAL. IT USES AN XPAC MATERIAL THAT IS FOREVER WATERPROOF, LIGHT AND TOUGH. THIS MEANS NO MORE PACK COVERS OR WET PACKS THAT ADDS TO HEAVIER PACKS WHEN WATER SOAKS IN. NOT TO MENTION YOUR CONTENTS BECOME DAMP FROM RAIN OR EVEN WET GROUND FROM MOST MATERIALS SOAKING UP THROUGH THE BOTTOM IF THE PACK IS PLACED ON DAMP GROUND ENOUGH TIMES.
THE FRAME IS THE SECOND NOTICEABLE UNIQUE FEATURE. IT IS AN EXTERNAL/INTERNAL HYBRID. THIS OVERALL CUTS WEIGHT FROM LACK OF INTERNAL CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND BRINGS THE FRAME CLOSER TO YOUR BODY THAN ANY PACK I HAVE EVER HAD ON THAT HAS A WEIGHT BEARING FRAME SYSTEM. THE FRAME NEVER TOUCHES YOUR BODY AND I AM THRILLED AT THE WEIGHT BEING CLOSER TO MY CENTER OF GRAVITY THAN EVER BEFORE. THIS PACK RIDES CLOSER THAN ANY OTHER PACK I HAVE CARRIED THAT CAN HANDLE SUBSTANTIAL WEIGHT (NOT A DAYPACK).
VOLUME IS SUCH THAT LOADING ITEMS IS A NO BRAINIER. STUFF LIGHTER ITEMS IN AND SINCE THE COMPRESSION STRAPS AS YOUR LOAD HEIGHT RISES TO CUSTOMIZE THE VOLUME DEPENDING ON YOUR LOAD NEEDS. YOU CAN EASILY CUSTOM TAILOR THE VOLUME WIDTH AND HEIGHT MORE EASILY WITH THIS PACK BAG DESIGN THAN PACKS THAT HAVE DEDICATED POCKETS AND COMPARTMENTS. THIS PACK IS BUILT WITH ONE MAIN PRIORITY. IT'S MADE TO HAUL YOUR LOAD AS CLOSE TO YOUR BODY AND HOLD YOUR LOAD IN A STABLE POSITION. AND IT DOES JUST THAT WITH SUCH COMFORT AND STABILITY IT'S SHOCKING.
THE RIDING COMFORT IS DUE TO THE FLOATING FULL WRAP BELT AND FLOATING SHOULDER HARNESS AND COMPRESSING THE LOAD AGAINST 2 MAIN FRAME TUBES. YOU CAN REALLY LOCK IN THE LOAD IN BETWEEN THE FRAME. IT KEEPS IT FROM SHIFTING AND SAGGING. THE FLOATING BELT AND HARNESS MEANS YOUR BODY CAN MOVE MORE NATURALLY AND HAS MORE MOVEMENT RANGE THAN TRADITIONAL INTERNAL FRAMES OR RIGID EXTERNAL FRAMES. MY PREVIOUS PACKS I COULD NOT BEND DOWN TO PICK UP A DROPPED TREKKING POLE OR SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH PACK ON WITHOUT GREAT EFFORT OR DIFFERENT UNNATURAL BODY MOVEMENT. THIS PACK HAS 90% THE SAME ARTICULATION AS A STANDARD NON WASTE BELT DAY PACK! I COULD GO OVER OR UNDER FALLEN TREES WITH WAY MORE MANEUVERABILITY THAN I HAVE EVER HAD WITH A PACK THAT COULD HAUL MORE THAN I COULD CARRY. AGAIN SECRET TO THE COMFORT IS THE EXTERNAL/INTERNAL FRAME HYBRID. THIS CONSTRUCTION ALLOWS MORE ARTICULATION BETWEEN THE PACK AND YOUR BODY MOVEMENTS. SOMETHING I WAS ALWAYS SEARCHING FOR BUT COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY IT WAS NEVER THERE. WELL, THIS CONSTRUCTION METHOD IS A TRUE EYE OPENER FOR ME. ALL I CAN SAY IS UNTIL YOU PUT THIS PACK ON YOU REALLY WON'T UNDERSTAND.
THE PACK CAN CARRY A TALL LOAD WHEN FULL OR A SMALLER LOAD WHEN COMPRESSED AND IF NEEDED A TOP LID CAN BE PURCHASED AND ADDED EASILY. IT IS A ROLL TOP CLOSURE DESIGN AND THIS IS SUPER SIMPLE AND PERFECT FOR VARYING THE LOAD HEIGHT. A DRAWSTRING OPENING ISN'T AS EFFICIENT AT GATHERING UNUSED AREAS AS THE ROLL TOP DESIGN IS. THIS ALSO MEANS WATER ISN'T GETTING INSIDE...PERIOD!
BRIAN GOODE ON 8TH MAY 2015 BRIAN GOODE on 5th Dec 2015
UNAWEEP 4800 REVIEW
I HAVE OWNED THE UNAWEEP 4800 SINCE JULY OF 2014 AND HAVE USED IT DOZENS OF TIMES WHILE HIKING, BACKPACKING AND ON HUNTING TRIPS THAT HAVE RANGED FROM 1-4 NIGHTS. PACK WEIGHTS HAVE RANGED FROM 10-65 POUNDS. WEATHER CONDITIONS HAVE RANGED FROM 80 DEGREE DESERT HEAT TO RAIN AND SNOW. OVERALL, IT IS FAR AND AWAY THE MOST COMFORTABLE, CAPABLE AND VERSATILE PACK I HAVE OWNED. GRANTED, IT IS NOT PERFECT (SEE CONS BELOW), BUT IT IS DAMN CLOSE.
1. THE CURVED FRAME CREATES A FEELING UNLIKE ANY OTHER "FRAME PACK" I HAVE EVER TRIED. IT IS SHAPED TO THE NATURAL CONTOURS OF YOUR SPINE AND SHOULDERS AND IT SIMPLY MOVES WITH YOU IN A VERY COMFORTABLE AND SMOOTH MANNER. I HAVE NO PROBLEMS SHOOTING MY BOW OR RIFLE WHILE WEARING THE PACK.
2. THE HIPBELT IS COMFORTABLE, EASY TO ADJUST AND HANDLES THE LOAD OF THE PACK ADMIRABLY.
3. IT IS WATERPROOF. THIS IS SUCH A COMFORTING FEELING WHEN THE RAIN AND SNOW STARTS FLYING AND YOU KNOW THAT THE INSIDE OF YOUR PACK IS NICE AND DRY.
4. IT HANDLES A HUGE VARIETY OF LOADS BEAUTIFULLY, MAKING IT THE ONE AND ONLY PACK YOU NEED. THE KEY TO THE COMPRESSION IS THE SUPER SIMPLE "TALON SYSTEM" THAT COMPRESSES THE MAIN BAG IN 7 AREAS (3 ON EACH SIDE, 1 ON TOP). BY CINCHING DOWN THE VARIOUS STRAPS OF THE TALON, YOU CAN SHRINK THIS LARGE VOLUME PACK DOWN REMARKABLY SMALL. ADDITIONALLY, YOU CAN DISTRIBUTE WEIGHT IN THE PACK TO A HIGHER POSITION BY CINCHING DOWN THE LOWER TALON STRAPS, EFFECTIVELY CREATING A SHELF IN THE LOCATION YOU WANT IT.
5. IT IS SIMPLE. THE MAIN COMPARTMENT IS ONE GIANT BAG WITH A ROLL-TOP AND A SIDE ZIPPER. AT FIRST, I WAS CONCERNED THAT I WOULD BE YEARNING FOR MORE ORGANIZATIONAL OPTIONS (POCKETS, FLAPS, ETC). INSTEAD, I HAVE FOUND THIS TO BE THE SIMPLEST PACK TO ORGANIZE MY STUFF AND FIND THINGS QUICKLY. I USE A FEW STUFF SACKS INSIDE AND KEEP ITEMS I NEED REGULARLY IN THE TALON. I OFTEN HIKE/HUNT IN CONDITIONS WHERE I TAKE A JACKET ON AND OFF VERY FREQUENTLY. I EITHER USE THE TOP "Y" STRAP TO SECURE THE JACKET OR COMPRESS IT BETWEEN THE TALON AND THE MAIN BAG. IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM.
6. IT IS LIGHTWEIGHT. THERE ARE TONS OF GREAT HEAVY LOAD HAULING PACKS OUT THERE, BUT THERE ARE VERY FEW THAT ARE THIS LIGHT.
7. SO FAR THE FABRIC HAS HELD UP LIKE A CHAMP. NO TEARS OR OBVIOUS SIGNS OF WEAR AND TEAR.
8. BONUS POINT: THE "GUN HOOK ROD" IS A GREAT LITTLE ACCESSORY IF YOU HUNT WITH A RIFLE WITH A SLING. IT TRANSFERS THE WEIGHT OF THE GUN TO THE PACK AND KEEPS THE RIFLE FROM SLIPPING OFF YOUR SHOULDER.
1. YOU MIGHT START RUNNING OUT OF SPACE IN THE UNAWEEP 4800 FOR BACKCOUNTRY HUNTS OR BACKPACKING TRIPS OF MORE THAN 6-7 DAYS DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH GEAR, FOOD AND WATER YOU NEED.
2. THE X-PAC MATERIAL IS A LITTLE NOISY WHEN OPENING/CLOSING THE BAG. FOR HUNTERS, THIS IS NOT IDEAL. HOWEVER, WHILE CARRYING THE PACK I HAVE NOT FOUND IT TO BE NOISY. IT IS ONLY WHEN OPENING THE TOP OR THE ZIPPER THAT THE MATERIAL "CRINKLES" A LITTLE MORE THAN I WOULD IDEALLY LIKE. THIS IS A TRADEOFF I CAN EASILY LIVE WITH SINCE THE MATERIAL IS DURABLE, LIGHT AND WATERPROOF.
3. I DID NOT LIKE THE BIG ZIPPER PULLS THAT COME STANDARD. I REPLACED THE METAL PULLS WITH PARACORD. TO BE CLEAR, THE ACTUAL ZIPPERS ARE VERY HIGH QUALITY, I JUST DON'T LIKE BIG METAL ZIPPER PULLS FLOPPING AROUND AND CREATING NOISE, SO I REPLACED THEM, WHICH TAKES 3 MINUTES.
4. THE 1" ADJUSTMENT STRAPS ON MY PACK ARE SHORTER THAN I EXPECTED AND ARE NOT "DOUBLED OVER" (BARTACKED?) AT THE ENDS, SO I OCCASIONALLY PULL THEM THROUGH THE PLASTIC BUCKLES.
5. AS A HUNTER, I FOUND THE BLACK FABRIC ON MY TALON TO BE SHINIER THAN I LIKE. I FOUND SOME LIGHTWEIGHT CAMO FABRIC AND DRAPED IT OVER THE TALON.
JOSH ON 7TH JUL 2015 Josh on 5th Dec 2015
Defects in manufacturing and material for the practical lifetime of the product. Damage due to wear and tear or misuse will be repaired for a reasonable charge.
|Main Bag Volume:||4800 (78 Liters)|
|Talon Volume:||800 - 1200 CI|
|Weight:||3lbs - 3lb 8 ounces|
|Torso Range 26:||16 - 21|
|Access:||Top Loading Roll Top, Talons for quick access|